It is a HUGE step for Hyatt because many of these properties are all inclusive resorts at great locations. This is huge for Hyatt leisure travellers, espcially those with families. I wonder if Hilton will dramatically increase my value and if I could sell it in the future for more than is offered now. Cash proceeds from the $2 billion asset sale programare expected to be usedto pay down debt, including debt incurred to fundthe acquisition. We travel to explore new places, eat delicious local foods and explore, all of these are generally harder with all-inclusive properties. Then fractional ownership of condo for example would have to divide say $300 a month for the HOA and here guessing $300 a month on utilities this is $600 a month and $7200 a year. Maintenance should also be lowered because the community of properties are a smaller selection. I will assume Choice points will not be a option for booking these properties in the near future. 3) Folks like Ben should just focus more on cash bookings at high end, independent and 3) Folks like Ben should just focus more on cash bookings at high end, independent and boutique hotels. If they rebrand a Diamond property it becomes a Hilton therefore no longer being available to us. All sides denied it, but kept talking about it, because a Wyndham-Diamond merger sounded like a good fit of timeshare cultures. The US hotel group said in a statement Sunday that it has agreed to buy luxury resorts operator Apple Leisure Group from private equity firms KKR and KSL Capital Partners for $2.7 billion. I told them to suck wind during my presentation. Distinctive Hilton service. The portfolio has grown at a fast pace, from nine resorts in 2007 to approximately 100 resorts by the end of 2021, with 24 more executed deals in the pipeline. In addition, theacquisitionwill also bring Hyatts brand into 11 new European markets. One of Diamond Resorts flagship properties, Mystic Dunes Resort features an on-site golf course and restaurant. Otherwise i will not have access to Hilton properties and some Diamond properties that do not meet Hilton standards will be closed. Hyatt Hotels has completed its acquisition of Apple Leisure Group, adding roughly 100 hotels and resorts to the Hyatt portfolio, including popular all-inclusive properties from brands like Secrets Resorts and Spas and Dreams Resorts and Spas. HGVC Owner here. HGV offered no information on what will happen to Diamond's executives. @Jason, I agree with your take on this as well. I have a deed at Lake Tahoe Vacation Resort but use Diamond points. In 2009, 63% of Hyatts earnings came from owned and leased properties, with fee-based earnings making up the remaining 37%. I bought into Diamond Resort and then the Hilton because the salesperson said we could sell it and or rent it out. That industry won't be the same for years or decades, these types of hotels will appeal to someone unwilling to get on a cruise ship and risk the Coronavirus-Norovirus roulette but still want that type of vacation. In August, The Wall Street Journal reported that the deal would cost Hyatt roughly $2.7 billion in cash plus some debt. Until check out time, and the woman assigned to this part was very clear and forthcoming when she went over the entire sale, which was NOT how it was presented to us. I turned both of them down. It was recently announced that Hilton Grand Vacations has purchased Diamond Resorts. According to Diamond CEO Mike Flaskey, HGV will also incorporate Diamond's "events and concerts platform" to deliver expanded vacation opportunities to owners. Currently, Choice Hotel points can be used to book this very same properties, usually ranging between 40k and 60k hotel points. While I love traveling to Europe and get very excited when Hyatt adds hotels in Italy or France, getting a long list of high quality all inclusive resorts available for points would get most Hyatt members excited. I'm thoroughly pissed off at HGVC. One, Some shocking numbers have been recently shared by the U.S. Travel Associations Project Time Off, in the 2017 report titled The State of the American Vacation. They tell me we have to upgrade, ( purchase another property) or we will never be eligible, even though we already own 2 properties. Very diverse crowd at Secrets - all-inclusive and people inclusive resort. There are no perks to try to urge us into travelling and saving a few bucks- we are gold preferred but prices have gotten so inflated we will never be able to at least try a HYAtt hotel. It was more like $35K. Just book by specific location. This is a big letdown because the one thing I don't like about Hyatt is its small footprint. That will include a centralized call center for all members to make reservations through Hilton, new travel packages that incorporate HGV and Diamond properties, new sales presentations for prospective buyers, new upgrade offers for existing members, etc. We are Gold members of Diamond and made the horrible mistake of paying the fees to to include Hilton HGVC. I dread the day that I have to make a reservation. Settle in for a quiet escape, splash in the surf with the kids or rediscover the child in you on a Sunshine State adventure. Looking forward to seeing what Hyatt does here. @ Christian -- Did they, that's interesting, as I don't think I've heard that before? Hilton will be the 5th owner of that property since I bought it 17 years ago! Appeal to a new type of customer? We attended the presentation by HGV last night in Chandler AZ to learn how the acquisition would affect our interests - we expected a diminuation of our points but no way did we expect Hilton to expect us to pay $60,000 to bring us into the Hilton family - for our timeshare we have owned for nearly 30 years!!! Once again they use scare tactics and carefully worded phrases in their attempts to have you pay again for access that we already purchased. Our current maintenance fees for the gold level our $6500. I am single. Need to find attorney to represent Diamond clients, Diamond got a billion dollars in the buy out, we are owners, where is our buy out. But. ALG has resorts listed in Article secrets, dreams, breathless and more with partners. Polo Towers/ The Club paid for & deeded owners is higher annual maintenance fees. The so called plus for option 3 was, if we called into a special diamond department during a specified window of time and booked 20K of our 30K points at a non-diamond resort, then diamond would apply a credit of $6500 towards our maintenance fees. What's funny is the crooks running this timeshare want $20K from HGVC owners to use Diamond Properties, but then they also want $20K for Diamond owners to use HGVC properties. Too bad they are so greedy. I have the same situation as Lorna posted in the previous comment. Warning: This site requires Javascript to function properly. My thought is I am going to just sit tight and see what else they offer - this honestly can't be it. Designed for travelers seeking casual comforts and simple pleasures, where custom meets convenience and living well is effortlesswe set the stage for memory-making moments. They cannot sell more points than they can occupy. This is a very unfair deal and we were all kept in the dark by Diamond resorts and now Hilton's grand scam is being unveiled. How can you excess maintenance fees on properties that are no longer associated with the agreement? is the managing editor for news at TPG. Check back for the latest news on the World of Hyatt expansion. Have they not been welcoming to LGBTQ couples, or? Of course it was nothing but a sales pitch. Once we pay off the loan can we sell it back. The costs for employing a closing company for holding escrow, performing title search, rewriting the deed, recording the deed and executing resort specific transfer documents. The $4.7 billion acquisition of ILG's shares, due to close by the end of the year, adds 250,000 more owners to the Marriott network as it assimilates the owners, assets, and 40 resorts held by the Westin, Sheraton, and Hyatt timeshare chains, Interval's vast exchange network, the VRI management company, the Aston hotel chain (primarily in In the near future, I'm guessing that HGV will only drag us diamond owners thru the mud a few more times before it's all said and done!!! If nobody signs up, then they will be forced to go back to the drawing board. I am interested in knowing if anyone is, actually, working on a class action suit that you have mentioned? I am paying roughly $1,894.12 per year for maintenance. Warning: Your web browser is out of date. We have updated all of the points charts on our website to reflect the new point values. For a full view HGV's position on the acquisition, see this presentation made for investors. I wish they would add more European regular hotels though. Does anyone know? @ Jason -- "There's nothing cheap about what they sell?" ALGs portfolio includes over 33,000 rooms operating in 10 countries. The comments on this page have not been provided, reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by any advertiser, and it is not an advertiser's responsibility to ensure posts and/or questions are answered. It all has to go through them and then be accepted by HGV. He also has roots in Silicon Valley, where he directed public relations and marketing programs for high-tech companies. The ultra-luxury all-inclusive Dreams Resorts chain is coming under the Hyatt banner. To get access to use Diamond properties, they want another $20K membership. Secrets Mallorca Villamil Resort & Spa now joins the Hyatt portfolio, SUNSHINE STATE SEES STARS: The Michelin Guide comes to Florida, SHANGHAI DISNEY SUDDENLY SHUT OVER COVID CASE. Unwind amidst the natural beauty, soak in the warm summer sun poolside, enjoy the on-site fitness center or explore Great Smoky Mountains National Park on a daylong hike. It is based on double occupancy. So I went, and found out that I was actually signing another contract to join Hilton Grand Vacations, I did not know this at the time. Hilton Vacation Club will be the new sub-brand for Diamond Resorts in the future, with Hilton Grand Vacations remaining as Hiltons top-tier timeshare product. Aren't all of the Ziva/Zilara properties owned/run by Playa Resorts? We accepted the offer. The pandemic gave all major travel companies, including timeshares, a yearlong timeout to recalibrate for travel to resume. I am interested, if those Diamond owners who did upgrade to Max, I wonder if Hilton got them to sign over their deeds in the Diamond properties? Secrets, Zoetry & Sunscape properties were bookable using Choice Hotel points for between 40k-60k points per night. We would like to sell all of this within the next two years but where and how? Having the additional booking methods and travel agent access, as TrvlGuru pointed out, probably sold this deal, but these resorts are the Short of buying Excellence Resorts or Velas Resorts, this is probably the best purchase they could have made to increase their luxury A-I portfolio (save for Sunscape). All the paperwork is under Diamond but she keep saying that we where Hilton. Honest question -- how much cheaper can all-inclusives get? Had my owner's update in Feb 22. It seems unless we spend more money we will have less to choose from. According to Hyatt, the company is currently working to determine how the World of Hyatt program and ALGs Unlimited Vacation Club properties can bring added value and unique loyalty benefits to their respective bases. The goal, the statement said, is for the integration to happen in 2022 so World of Hyatt members can start earning and redeeming points at more than 100 new properties through the program. So, whats the rationale? Previously, there were only a few upscale/luxury all-inclusives you could use Hyatt points at. -Secrets: luxury adult-only romantic Now I'm selling my HGVC property. The acquisition comprises 33,000 hotel rooms in 10 countries, making Hyatt the worlds largest operator of luxury all-inclusive resorts based on room count and the largest operator of luxury hotels in Mexico and the Caribbean. During the trip following, my husband decided to attend another of their "meetings" and they explained that we needed to put in another $10K to ultimately save on maintenance fees. Editorial disclaimer: Opinions expressed here are the authors alone, not those of any bank, credit card issuer, airline or hotel chain, and have not been reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by any of these entities. I wonder if Hyatt is going to rebrand most/all these all inclusives to Zivas or Zilaras. This is $138.46 per week and points start balancing out to a week. Enjoy a day by one of the pools or practice your swing on the course. We took a pass and will seek ways to no get out of our ownership - Hiton can cover our maintenance fees themselves! Appeal to a new type of customer? Tucked away on the secluded coastline of Conejos Bay, Secrets Huatulco Resort & Spa offers the ultimate escape for serenity and romance. Its recommended to use a Licensed, Bonded, and Insured closing company. ALG is fundamentally an asset-light business with no hotel ownership, aligning perfectly with our strategic goals, said Hoplamazian. It was the worst hotel I've stayed at in 10 years. I feel like I was sucker punched during my owner's update. Your feedback is important in helping us keep our community safe. owning time share properties is very stressful. Hyattexpects tofund more than 80% of the purchase with a combination of $1 billion of cash on hand and new debt financings, and the remainder with approximately $500 million from equity financing, according to a statement. Were very bullish on leisure travel. I believe Hilton has screwed all of its current club members!!! I'm not sure the properties are even worth the annual maintenance fees let alone the additional buy in $ they want1. @ Julia -- Did I, or anyone else, say that this was a bad investment? Hyatt has been a travel agent friendly brand and now they just bought access to all those travel agents selling leisure travel through ALG. Do you have a list of all ALG's properties? The hotel company hassecured a $1.7 billion financing commitment from J.P. Morgan. I will be researching the best way to unload this timeshare! Makes Hyatt feel less desirable to me. I spoke to my buddy tonight and he owns a Wyndham timeshare. Its just a marketing ploy. NOT WiTH HILTON! Over the years we upgraded to more points for $$s. At the moment no details have been officially released by Hilton. We're excited about luxury in particular because we expect the global luxury travel market to grow at about 11% from 2021 to 2027.. If anyone on this forum hears of a class action, count me in. Whopping changes are ahead for members of both clubs, but none will surface until after the deal is closed, and approved by regulators, this summer. i do not fit into that creteria either. I am a Diamond silver owner and I just went through a Hilton Update presentation. We may receive compensation when you click on links to those products. This is a step in the right direction for World of Hyatt considering one of the biggest complaints from loyalty members is the smaller footprint of Hyatt compared to Marriott and Hilton. Hyatt is doubling its global resorts footprint through the addition of ALG's AMR Collection brand portfolio, which comprises approximately 100 hotels and resorts operating in 10 countries, as well as a pipeline of 24 executed deals in the Americas and Europe. When you stay at Flamingo Beach Resort, you will have all of this, and more. Hyatt Hotels has completed its previously announced deal to acquire leading luxury resort-management services, travel, and hospitality group Apple Leisure Group (ALG), which will notably enable the hotel company to double its global resorts footprint through the addition of ALG's AMR Collection brand portfolio, comprising approximately 100 hotels The primary reason for this change is because Hilton wants to make it easier behind-the-scenes to integrate the club vacation clubs with one shared booking system. This gives members the ability to earn and redeem points at all kinds of new properties. Basically the timeshare although we were always told its not a timeshare because you own a part of it! The deal will quintuple the number of Hyatt-owned resort properties in Mexico from nine to 46, and greatly expand the companys footprint in the Caribbean from five properties to 27. Nothing good will come from it for those of us that own with paid off memberships. I would hope Hilton is large enough they are not trying to do this to previous owners. I told him no. This will greatly expand Hyatts footprint in the all-inclusive resort market, especially in the Caribbean, Mexico, and Europe. It is based on a 100,000 dollar a year income. These places are NOT luxury. Ehhh. Lasting vacation memories. Theres nothing cheap about what they sell. Outside of banner ads published through the Boarding Area network, this compensation does not impact how and where products appear on this site. This is an update to note that this agreement has now been finalized, and we have more of a sense of when World of Hyatt members can expect to benefit from this. The deal has an announced purchase price of $480 million with the potential for an additional $120 million based on the final terms. I have stayed at several Hyatt Ziva's and had wonderful experiences (especially the Hyatt Ziva Cap Cana). This is not only brave on the part of Hyatt to invest a huge amount of cash, it does go to show that Hyatt is comfortable in charting a strategic course which would value add to their Brand portfolio and diversify the brand segments. No one will buy something they should get for free. Having first entered the fast-growing luxury all-inclusive space in 2013, we are ideally positioned to capture the significant and rising demand for leisure travel and extend the world-class hospitality we provide to a wide range of new travellers, he continued. Diamond Club Members beware! Terms apply to the offers listed on this page. I have no experience with this but I thought they had issues in the past.maybe it was Sandals after all and not Secrets. They lost a discrimination suit in 2004 and were forced to accept gay and lesbian couples as guests. On March 10 of this year, Apollo agreed to sell Diamond to HGV for $1.4 billion in a non-cash, all-stock transaction that will give Apollo 28 percent of HGV's stock and membership on its board of directors. Let's band together you cannot operate as a company like this and defraud people. The sales presentation was very misleading, and of course a hard sale, that we almost went with. I would guess they would have some objections to using the same branding for these "new" properties, particularly since some are going to be directly competing with existing Ziva/Zilara properties. They sold the Diamond acquisition as something we would have access to last year. I think Ben is correct, I would never stay at an all inclusive resort either, ( remembering Club Med ) hes merely pointing out a new business acquisition which in itself is great news. As its described, heres what Hyatt is hoping to gain by acquiring ALG: Heres how Hyatt CEO Mark Hoplamazian described the acquisition when it was first announced: With the asset-light acquisition of Apple Leisure Group, we are thrilled to bring a highly desirable independent resort management platform into the Hyatt family. Bottom line. Terrible article and hes getting more and more biased/entitled/opinionated/self-focused in his old(er) age (whereas IMHO he seemed a lot more balanced and objective in the past which is why I liked reading him).
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