Um and eventually you start um you know fondling their their legs and tails and hoping to get them to ejaculate and had a volunteer working with me, her name was favorite bridge oni. And these hybrid finches, are they doing better against flies? Which 15 years ago, they would never do back in the year 2000, Sonia and some colleagues tried feeding the finches, some fly larva and if ever there were a look of disgust on a finch face, that was it. This is fraser fraser. I guess. I started studying Darwin's finches in particular. Radiolab - Galapagos | The Best Podcasts, As Chosen By You earbud.fm by NPR Radiolab Galapagos "I love the Galapagos episode. Who kind of scrambled everything up for me? Oh yeah. That's our working hypothesis which brings us to her idea. What happened to the forest, goats, goats? You just grabbed it just like that. WebRadiolab Science Friday See All Podcasts FEATURED EPISODES Jane Mayer on the Ethical Questions About Justice Clarence Thomas The staff writer discusses the latest financial-disclosure scandal involving the judge, and the decline in public trust in the Supreme Court. She thought, God why can't I tell these finches apart? There is where evolution is very strong. Web72 votes, 254 comments. Ariane wack pat, Walters and molly Webster With help from Bowen wong. Some alligators, but you've got a crap load of fish, you've got a crap load of fungus, fun, fun, fun, fun guy, fungi, fungi or fungi, whatever, you know, Ravelli, whatever you take seriously. The water then drips down from the top of the trees down to the ground, creating what we call drip pools, which provides tortoises with water during the dry season and they like to rest in water. 25400 U.S. Highway 19 North, Suite 158. This one, which first aired As our co-Hosts Lulu Miller and Latif Nasser are out this week, we are re-sharing the perfect episode to start the summer season! It's keeping score. And James says in a way it was a paradox because on the one hand, awesome, we have an actual living pinta island tortoise. Susie Leuchtenburg is our executive producer. It would be lovely if we could find something like that because if they could find that chemical that love chemical that the flies used to attract each other, they could disrupt it, confuse the flies and screw up their mating. Whereas the numbers were very small for the medium tree finch and smaller for the small tree finch, wow, I dare say that sounds kind of hopeful. But whatever the scene is that just doesn't have any people but is carrying that idea, those pictures in your head even like useful anymore. But then one evening in March of 1972. That's cool. Exactly. So talked into the story of these finches is the story of Galapagos. Let's go back to a better time. Radio lab is supported by the john Templeton Foundation Funding research and catalyzing conversations that inspire people with awe and wonder learn about the latest discoveries in the science of well being, complexity, forgiveness and free will at Templeton dot org, As our co-Hosts Lulu Miller and Latif Nasser are out this week, we are re-sharing the perfect episode to start the summer season! And you have this one here. You know, they basically feed on the blood of the baby birds. You had the small tree finches and the medium tree finch is. In any case for about 40 years. Our fact checkers are diane kelly, Emily Krieger and Adam Sibyl Hi, I'm Erica in Yonkers leadership. They learned that this sound means, so the goats start hiding so they're going to bushes, they won't move, They learn to stand under a tree holding their breath. But here's what they do know. We use this technique called judas, goats. So how big a problem is this? It rolls over this forest and it catches in the branches of the trees. Now of course there are no female tortoises on pinta but they thought you know, maybe a zoo somewhere private collection has one because you really never know. Just going to meet you at the airport. Outside of WNYC, I think This American Life does as well, and I know enthusiastic fans transcribed Serial. Three tree finch species, the small, the medium and the large, and we went out and we set up our miss nets and we caught the birds and we measured them. But a high school girls volleyball team is redefining what it means to play together. Here's Kareem Yousef, the general manager of AI Applications at IBM, I'm standing on top of a suspension bridge, I've got a vast view in front of me. But then Sonia told me something really surprising. I like to think of it as a kind of Darwin finch. Yes I do. We said goodbye to Jad abu Murad. She's lived in Galapagos for over a decade. But even worse so far. It goes off and has this kid and it's very solitary, which is the last thing you want when you're trying to get goats off islands. Either the whalers or the pirates. You had tons of sailors making these long voyages across the Pacific and Galapagos was the major ports on the whaling route where you come and get fresh water, but you'd also come in and pick up tortoises, land tortoises and you know, boats would take away several 100 of them often and turn them upside down and they can last for up to a year and a half in the hold of a ship like lying there, upside down, lying there upside down in order to make space for the tortoises. And I'm like, is he gonna win? On the other hand, you had all of these goats that didn't choose to be on the island. Sutherland was the engineer pilot and a sharp shooter 2004, 3 to 2000 and six. That sally dream is she's an environmental Law professor at the Berkeley School of Law in California? It's like a biological rule about who you're not going to make a baby with. We've done so much on the show since last summer. There is music under the breaks. So I think there's been a change. So you um you complete that with Isabella and did it work? He's adorable. She showed me her lab. And the flags are still flying everywhere. We are ascending and we have our dreams. So in 2009 they come up with a stopgap. You know, until the originals are ready. It's actually the footprint of the white man. Oh my God, they ate the whole back of this little finch. 23 Weeks 6 Days He just kind of points. She says there's actually very little known about the fly. Now linda says in the end you don't actually need to do the full aggressive four generation breeding thing. The tortoises had different shells depending on the kind of island they lived on. It's like having a program on you over and over and over again, it gets worse. Now the Galapagos government spends millions of dollars checking all of the goods that come in and out trying to quarantine the ones that might have things that are a problem. He never really liked other tortoises much. And tortoises. Almost every day during that time fraser would fly over Isabela island, two guys with two shooters either side of the helicopter, what you do is so you come across and you're flying along and you might see one goat says you follow that goat as it ran away until it joined its friends. I mean we're probably talking just a few goats, but by the 1990s those few goats, the population had exploded to about 100,000 goats. You know, they eat goats in africa, you know, why don't you get lions on there? It's like a soprano saxophone and alto and a 10 or something like that. TRT: 59:00 *Breaks: Two 1:00 minute breaks. Yeah. How far are we willing to go to stop that from happening? That's right. Yes. Mhm We'll be back in less than 200,000 years. But that's the only possible the first day. She sees a small group of birds who have mixed up jeans hybrid cluster some genes from the small tree finches and some from the medium tree finch is what does that mean? You had plants re emerging, you had trees growing back and in a really short period of time. A small business owner makes their first sale on Shopify. You should actually get better with experience. At first nobody had any idea what kind of creature it was. I'm surrounded by shelves and on the shelves are these tiny little plastic cups that are filled with flies. These are such alien looking creatures. Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:48:02 +0000. It was a magical, magical area. Yeah. I'm soren wheeler lulu and latif are out this week. She says if we keep doing that, taking the babies with the most painted DNA, breeding them together slowly. And then, um, I actually didn't get back there for maybe 15 years from when I was there the first time and when I returned That forest was 100% gone. Joint Review I thought you were gonna say people, it was kind of a collaboration. Doesn't matter point is an introduced species. He wasn't curious. This is carl Campbell. The wrench of the white man. 2012-10-10 06:29:29. For instance, add up as picking the lafayette of the nostrils of the baby birds and what we're starting to see is that they're beginning to consume them. Now most of these plants are actually probably harmless and you know like you said Galapagos national park they spend tons of money, tons of time trying to keep invasives out. For the medium is a check for the large Chee Chee wow. It's relatively easy to remove 90% of a goat population from an island. So go join at radio lab dot org slash join and I'll see you all later. There was no shade, tortoises were sitting out in the sun or crowded around a couple of stalks that were still there. They take 39 tortoises raised in captivity and they use them as placeholders. the new york public school system has been called the most racially segregated in the country. We talk about going from weeks to hours, two minutes, two seconds at its core artificial intelligence for me has always been about decision support. I didn't say it was silly. The uneasy marriage of biology and engineering raises big questions about the nature of life. In fact one guy spoke with Harry Green. No. I mean like like sergeants. Lava flows are like 1000 sea iguanas taking a sun bath. Transcript. Today we begin on a plane which carried our newly married producer, tim howard to the Galapagos. silly. They're just basically the lawnmowers. They might not be stupid ideas, but we still might not be able to do them. So they went island by island, took a little bit of blood from all these different tortoises. That's. WebRadiolab is a radio program broadcast on public radio stations in the United States, and a podcast available internationally, both produced by WNYC. So it's a lot. Green and white leaves. So that was my first experience. And that's also why when we think of evolution, we think of the Galapagos and in particular we think of two iconic creatures, the tortoise and the finch. WebCommission on Accreditation of Allied Health Education Programs. Yeah, well I stood next to carl and watched him do it and carl took it one step further and he actually gave these females hormone implants, basically put them in the heat for an extended duration. That's what I thought. WebThe audio for this video comes from NPRs RadioLab - I do not own the rights to this. So his name is, he is a naturalist guide. From their Penta ancestors than others. But if the hybrids do have a fitness advantage and if they survive, we may be witnessing in hyperspeed the creation of an entirely new species. Go to Shopify dot com slash radio lab. The medium tree finch has patrol that boundary. The show is nationally syndicated Well, I talked to one scientist sonia klein door for I'm professor in animal behavior at flinders University, south Australia. Do you hear me? But here's the problem. This is a field of four. WebWe are dedicating a whole hour to the Galapagos archipelago, the place that inspired Darwins theory of evolution and natural selection. Initially it was carl's suggestion was goats, gregarious and like being in groups, they're herd animals. Yeah. The interview originally from a podcast called The Relentless Picnic, but presented by one of Lulus current podcast faves, The 11th is part of an episode of mini pep talks designed to help us all get through this cold, dark, second-pandemic-winter-in-a-row. And this became one of the, one of the most important pieces of evidence that, you know, when animals would move from one place to another, they would begin to differentiate based on very, very important. This is to control the population. On the one hand, the tortoises needed help. Bonobos. I can see the sea cargo ships going by and we have drones flying that are taking thousands of pictures of every angle of that bridge that no human could actually quickly process without artificial intelligence. Every population of tortoises on all the islands. C studios. Just because so today a little step back in time to one of my favorite radio producers, tim Howard telling us the story of a truly singular spot on the face of our earth. I wonder how many years these guys have been here for. But to give an example of the nature of this business that's josh Donlan, he runs an NGO that was involved in project Isabella. This is radio lab. Just out of sympathy for them. This is possibility powered by Shopify. We went live on the radio that was so fun. They kept them around. Boxid. 14K subscribers in the Radiolab community. It wouldn't notice that you were there. And this is what I think is really. Scientists tried everything humanly possible to get lonesome George to mate with another tortoise so they could resurrect the species and bring Pinta island back to its original state. Contact us, indicating the AAPB ID (cpb-aacip/80-80vq8sgb). By the ocean of breath twice, I remember I carried your oxygen. If they can't make babies, the population will crash and in some cases you can successfully eradicate a species. We have at least five species that are known to be facing extinction and another six in serious decline. Yeah, that that was a very unexpected discovery, takes a couple steps to get there, but just to set it up back in 2000, she was on floreana island for the first time. So carl kept mulling this problem, what would it take to basically make you know, the perfect judas goat. We are dedicating a whole hour to the Galapagos archipelago, the place that inspired Darwins theory of evolution and natural selection. WebPodcast Transcripts of Radiolab Radiolab Society & Culture Science Latest Transcripts What Up Holmes? Support Radiolab by becoming a member of The Lab (https://members.radiolab.org/) today. These tortoises are only found here. So they thought maybe he needs a pinto lady. I'm the restoration Ecologist at the Charles Darwin foundation. Shopify powers millions of entrepreneurs from first sale to full scale every 28 seconds. She took a trip to this island called Isabella, hiked up the side of a volcano and looked at all the tortoise country and it was an Impenetrable forest, basically tortoise heaven. WebRadiolab is one of the most beloved podcasts and public radio programs in the world. Yeah, it's P. H. I L. I can't spell out loud Phil or L. O. R. N. I. S. D. O. W. N. S. I. Filan is actually means bird loving. You know sleuthing adventure sonya and her team rounded up some of the birds. The tortoise is a tortoise is a tortoise. And sometimes when they were done and the ship was filled with whale products, there's no room down here. And the fishermen are like, who are you to tell me that I can't feed my family. 24 June 2012. So they began to frantically study it. Yeah. At first I didn't know what that was happening but turns out it was an election and I was just really blown away that this Continue this procession for like 15 minutes. So where your values lie. I felt violent. He was so joyful to have lost. I'm Jad Abumrad. Let's just take some tortoises from a nearby island and put them back on Penta. We don't think it was natural Gisella thinks it might have been the whalers. Not worse. The adult fly seems to be harmless. We found this on 13 islands. That's charlotte costin. Yeah. 179 years later, the Galapagos And if things keep going this way, who's going to stand up for nature? So we, you know, we do this interview in english and I'm almost embarrassed that I wanted to talk to him because I think the dude is just gonna be so down and out exactly the opposite. (727) 210-2350. www.caahep.org. They hear your footsteps, they raised their heads, they come out to see what's going on and then they get whacked. It's white and it's really loud. So I'm just going to step in to play an episode that well, if I'm honest, it's just one that I felt like hearing and running again at this moment. The nostrils have have big holes, something had gotten inside this little finches, nostrils drilled these holes And it was now eating the flesh on the inside of the bird's nostrils. They showed me where the traps are trapped hanging from a tree here and you see them actually all over santa cruz. So damn case in point. There's 100,000 of them, So many doubters, Carl says even heard the idea, why don't you put lions? It's such a perfect day for toward us hunting. And we all agreed because the calls are really distinct, easy to tell apart. They've got to limit their catch. Say a few from maybe those Penta tortoises swim with occurrence to that nearby island. And they're like, I don't know who the guy was, but it turns out he was the incumbent. Created in 2002, Radiolab began as an exploration of science, philosophy, and I am a senior research scientist at Yale University and has come up with kind of a radical idea. Is there any time scale we should worry about. The natural skied from the first chapter Who wrote this song, Peak Open Zone. We covered disability and access in a way that was totally new for us. Mhm tortoises walking around. But then the national Park comes in same group that's doing the goat eradication And they tell the fishermen they're overfishing the sea cucumber. They burned down a building. They tagged, we collected genetic samples, got some D. N. A. Coincidentally, these are the topics that Radiolab also loves. It feeds on flowers and we think decomposing fruits, baby flies, they're not vegetarians, they will, you know, blood. No, we're talking about island by island over the course of about seven years. And as he went island to island, he started noticing that there were all these creatures that were really similar to each other but also a little bit different. In the mid nineties we started in 94 Gisella and some folks from the Galapagos national park, they began taking a census of all the tortoises in the Galapagos. And how far are we willing to go to return a place to what it was before we got there. To what cause was the demise of the Pinta tortoises attributed? I'm walking through the town. Oh my God, there are these three massive tortoises just clustered together under a tree. Access powerful tools to help you find customers, drive sales and manage your day to day. So thank you very much for the interview. All I remember is having a smile on my face all the time because you know, as a biologist going to Galapagos is like going to mecca. Hey listeners, this is molly Webster. And what happens is that as soon as birds start laying eggs, mother flies swoop in and lay their eggs on the base of the nest underneath the finch eggs. See? So that had acted as a barrier basically with goats on one side tortoises on the other. Nearly 200 years later, the Galpagos are undergoing rapid changes that continue to pose and perhaps answer critical questions about the fragility and It's a directional antenna. Darwin's five weeks on Galapagos pushed him to develop his theory of evolution. Oh, I'm never a Doubter. Our newsletter comes out every Wednesday. That is the sound of a tortoise breathing. He didn't seem to like humans and maybe that's why he survived. Look at this species here, Small levi, green thing they call it Huntin in spanish, it is in its plan ta go, I think in the U. S. They call it, Was it the wrench of the white man? And that's paul Watson, founder of the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society. And I'm like, what are you? So for starters they put up all these traps. Really? And the question is, what's our responsibility? You can just take the best pinta tortoises you find and put those on Penta and you know over the next 200,000 years they will evolve into a pinto tortoise and it could be a bit different than the past pinta tortoise because evolution and mutation and all that doesn't occur the same. There's a little hole into the brain of this little finch. Penta is was a very special place. This tiny little dead finch in this box, wow! Dylan keith is our Director of sound design. So if you can better automate that and leverage intelligence to make sense. And you do that every two weeks for a year. Is this the way that everybody who works on the tortoises thinks about it this kind of deep time. Mhm. In fact says that it's actually in the same family as the regular house fly, but it's actually a boat fly called the Lorna's down. Hey, it's latin. Radiolab is supported by Simon and Schuster, publishers of The Codebreaker, the new book from Walter Isaacson, an exploration of Nobel Prize winner Jennifer Doudna and modern sciences efforts to cure disease, combat viruses and raise healthy children available wherever books are sold. Oh my God. 179 years later, the Galapagos are Support Radiolab by becoming a member of. This is the villain. Or maybe it's 10,000 hammerhead sharks. Yeah, the results of this were absolutely impressive. Um they seem to have stopped, you know taking over National Park and killing tortoises. This hour we take a look at what happens when we all try to live together. Someone chopped it in half. The other three of money behind them and you see their flags all over santa cruz. To take good question. You've got. My name is Gisele. This kind of eradication program was far beyond anything that anyone had ever done anywhere in the world Because it turns out they weren't just doing this on Isabela Island? And he tells me, well, I'm nervous. The ideal judas goat, if you will is a goat that would search for and be searched for and that would never get pregnant. iTunes Overcast App Radiolab Page RADIOLAB Baby Blue Blood Drive Did you know that horseshoe crabs have blue blood? You actually end up meeting a lot of people employed that way in Galapagos and he tells me politically speaking, he's an outsider and of course I'm wondering why he's standing there by himself waving a flag at this entire parade of people who don't support him at all. We are dedicating a whole hour to the Galapagos archipelago, the place that inspired Darwins theory of evolution and natural selection. Nothing worked until One day in July of 2008, George turns to the two female tortoises that he had been ignoring for years and he says, inexplicably he just suddenly decides to mate with both of them. What if on these islands, thousands of tourists arrive every day carrying fruits and chocolates and souvenirs jumping from island to island. But I go up to him and I yell at him, who's your candidate and he said, I am a candidate? I'm talking tie dyed caps and hot pink sweatbands. And you could argue we're gonna have to get a whole lot better at making some very, very difficult decisions. And if you think about it, we all have this, we all have this this picture of what we want to bring it all back to. You know, like nature in its purest form. They would need like millions of traps every few feet to do that. They sterilize them and put them on pinter. More information You're saying this pinto DNA was on another island. Once the eggs hatch, the eggs hatch of the flies as well in the larvae wriggling little larvae will crawl out from the bottom of the nest up the finch's body into its beak and they go into the noses of the baby finches and just start eating. Going back. This foundation is this idea of pristine wilderness from the very beginning, I think all of us well I can't speak for other people, but but you always have this idea of wanting to get it back to some kind of pre human condition, pre human being, the operative word. Now the jury is still very much out on what will happen. What if everything has been changing all the time? By this point, I'm getting super excited and I'm thinking about Darwin and I start reading Voyage of the Beagle, his book on this nook that I had bought for the trip. They were having a meeting about this that's conservationist, josh Donlan. Also, thanks to Dylan keef original music. We only have a few days left to meet our financial goal. Why? Scientists had to find clever ways to help the turtles on the island! Hello Gisella. Test the outer edges of what you think you know, Radiolab is supported by listeners like you. Nearly 200 years later, the Galpagos are undergoing rapid changes that continue to pose and perhaps answer critical questions about the fragility and resilience of life on Earth. And then dropping to the ground, the last goat or two might sort of run into a area where it's impossible to reach. What was that? Radiolab ' s first nine seasons (February 2002April 2011) comprised five episodes each. Subsequent seasons contained between nine and ten episodes. Season 15 began airing in January 2017. In 2018 the show's seasonal and episode format became obscured when online content moved from radiolab.org to wnycstudios.org. What do they look like? They weren't sure they'd eventually name him George lonesome George. Right? But we will be different when we come back. This is radio lab and we are dedicating the entire hour to this little set of islands and to that question as the world is filling up with more and more and more people, Is it inevitable that even the most sacred pristine places on the planet will eventually get swallowed up? You've got. I'm actually walking down Charles Darwin Avenue just kinda getting the lay of the land when all of a sudden this line of cars comes around the corner honking, endless honking and waving flags, blue flags. Surely in four generations you could have 90% of the pinto genome restored. He like points at the cars in front and behind as if like dude, seriously, you see how many of us there are. Their mating calls. But then at a certain point I noticed this one guy by himself standing on the sidewalk wearing a white shirt and jeans, he's waving a flag, but his flag is a different color. So she would end up relying on their songs. Can I get you to introduce yourself? As of September 2020, Radiolab is hosted by Latif Nasser and Lulu Miller. The show focuses on topics of a scientific, philosophical, and political nature. The show attempts to approach broad, difficult topics such as "time" and "morality" in an accessible and light-hearted manner and with a distinctive audio production style. But speaking of beaks that finch that Arnaud was holding his beak, did you see the, especially this side is extremely huge. And just how far are we willing to go to stop that from happening? It would possibly be one of the first vertebrate examples of speciation in real time that we can observe. Our budget year ends with the school year. So we we just sat in the forest and we would always quiz each other. You see that they're only there for this border of about 5 to 10 inches along the edge of that path because he said what happens is that tourists, they'll be back in their home country, they'll be walking around in the garden or a park and it'll be filled with tiny seeds, the seeds stick to shoes and socks and trousers. The goats become quote educated. Yeah, she's opening a box with some of the birds, that little benson is the finches. This is Mathias espinosa and naturalist guide in the Galapagos and like linda. This is the place where Darwin began to develop his theory of evolution and it's the place 100 70 year or maybe 280 years later where our producer tim howard landed wearing fishnets and a bad brains t shirt too fine to find a very different landscape than what Darwin saw.
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