My 22 year career, Ive seen this cycle. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Other. that is your choice and you should be willing to live with the consequences. We commend their motion to include people from all religions in their grooming standards. Change is sometimes difficult for anyone who is kind of set in their ways. This authorization was a huge step for future military men with religious beards in the military and specifically those practicing Norse Paganism. From left, A02 Joe Probasco, LTC Kamal S. Kalsi and A02 Guldeep Kaur stand for a photo near the World War II memorial in Washington D.C. LTC Kalsi is the first Sikh American soldier to have been given a uniform accomodation allowing a beard and dastar - both observed as requirements for Sikh followers. I see the R at the end of your USN so no F you Matte. Beards are largely banned for military servicemen in the United States, inspiring conversations about dress code among religious members whose religions forbid shaving. Doesnt make it wrong or right, just difficult to deal with. In two memos signed on Nov. 8, Army Secretary Mark Esper laid out new processes for allowing religious soldiers to wear distinguishing symbols, as well as refined guidelines for completing mandatory Sexual Harassment/Assault Response and Prevention, Equal Opportunity, suicide prevention, substance abuse prevention and resilience training. ( cane, wheelchair ?? GOOD LUCK @. I served during the Zumwalt days and had a neat, military-style beard as a Navy Airborne Electronic Warfare Officer. As Carl pointed out, there are many non-combat positions, and I, foolishly it seems, believed that would go without saying. 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After that women wanting to wear dresses instead of the standard uniform. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Analytics". I THOUGHT IT DIDNT MATTER!!!! They then passed it up to the battalion level, which is when things got difficult. While the Navy has granted religious exemptions in the past, they have not always held. Its part of uniform regs.. You know this if youre retired. After Canadas recent acceptance of facial hair in the military, it seems only fair that the United States would do the same. The Army Times has since reported that a soldier at Fort Leonard Wood in Missouri was granted permission to grow a beard in accordance with heathenry. My best friend is gay and he is one of many I would like to have protecting me in a fox hole when I am asleep. I DESIGNED AND BUILT PULMONARY FUNCTION UNITS AT A COUPLE OF HOSPITALS, Thanks Jay. I want killing machines that never falter nor stray nor betray, and certainly want ones that dont bitch about facial hair or gods. Oh and dark chocolate please. Also, please learn to spell, punctuate, and use proper grammatical structure. Every soldier needs to be treated as the slaves of the south a mere two centuries ago. You can see what the new tattoo policy is here. (Sgt. I Retired with 21 years!!! Since April, Esper has released 16 memos to reduce administrative burdens on leaders. I loathe nothing more then self sold slaves acting as if that action should entitle them to some greater status in society. Not to mention the Mexican drug cartel armies. Nowadays there are companies turning out beard friendly gas masks. It was hanging down seven inches below my chin, then shaved it off in April, but regretted it, so have since been growing it back. beard getting caught up in their machine gun? The military first banned beards during World War I, as beards greatly increased the risk that soldiers wouldnt be able to put on their life-saving gas masks during a chemical attack. Somebody has to stay home, and tend the fort. Photos courtesy of USAF. They might even call it the cavalry. Abdul Rahman Gaitan waited four years for official approval. It is my humble opinion, times change and that does not mean that they develop as bad soldiers, I understand perfectly the regulations of the armed forces but if we compare it the people who ask for that special permit are minorities and it is clear that it is for matters of faith. It won't take up much room in their fifty pound backpacks. It is something new and authorized, and you will always encounter people who do not like change. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. Where are they going to hide in a real world situation? AMERICA IS NOW WEAK, LAUGHED AT, AND EVERYONE WANTS TO TRY THEIR LUCK AT THE FENCE OF ALL REAL AMERICANS. Meghann Myers is the Pentagon bureau chief at Military Times. Commanders will incorporate everything into their unit training plans and use assessments to keep track of risk areas, though when, where and how training is done is up to them. Bring it back , now. It's been many decades since I was in school, and the kids back then were at least creative about it. The Military has already told Sikhs this and they have already told orthodox jews this and they have even told Rastafarians the same thing. Would do it all over again. With 6 yrs Army, and 15 yrs in the Navy.. As long as they aren't the ones who are getting hurt they won't care if they send a million troops into combat, to do their dirty work for them. The changes are written in red and the original policy in black. I know theres some right here in these comments. The Pentagon has allowed military personnel to request religious accommodation to uniforms under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act since 2014. WHY DO YOU THINK WE ARE BETTER THAN ALL THOSE PEOPLE! Online training is no longer required. However, we are not actively promoting a trend in this direction or seeking to normalize it.. In many religions, facial hair is an importanttradition. The cookie is set by the GDPR Cookie Consent plugin and is used to store whether or not user has consented to the use of cookies. Its Airman like you who kept us strong. DiPietro is one of the first known U.S. service members to receive a religious exemption from hair standards due to their Christian faith, although in recent years the various service branches have granted exemptions for Sikhs, Muslims, and even Norse pagans in the ranks. Today the Navy uses positive-pressure gas masks. We served with fellow service members we KNEW were gay, but as long as they maintained proper military bearing and did their jobs NO ONE CARED. Women service members should have had relaxed hair styles long ago. This makes it especially difficult for men who have a beard keeping with religious traditions and requirements. The Space Force also announced the same expanded mustache policy, along with a more loose tattoo policy. U.S. News May 19, 2021 / 3:00 AM Sailors sue U.S. Navy for religious exemption to have beards By Pamela Manson Airman 1st Class Harpreetinder Singh Bajwa is the first active-duty airman permitted. Rutner said DiPietros request to wear a beard and uncut hair was being approved and noted that there was no specific hazard identified by allowing it. Religions That Allow Beards In The Military. (Photo via Sgt. Thumbs up to our Chefs, First Shirts and brave young officers for making this happen. If youre trying to fleece the system because you just dont want to shave, or you just want to grow your hair out, he says, its not gonna work.. The army didnt allow it for that reason. Jacob DiPietro filed an official request to grow a beard, arguing that shaving is against his personal religious beliefs. Personally instead of sacrificing our military standards, implement the draft and to hell with any exceptions, because your in college. If I read the above article correctly, the issue is not about the color of one's skin but the religious affliation of that solideryou seem to believe there are no black christiansIf one religious group does'nt have to shave to honor their god (Muslims) than nobody should have to. in highschool, my grandmother made me take a bath with Clorox in the water. I was a draftee who rose to The sense of special privilege they come to feel based entirely on the might makes right attitude they are indocrinated into makes every one of them, no matter if they see actua combat or not, a mentally damaged threat to actual society and citizens. Religious minorities need not be placed in a position of choosing between their faith and public service. Why the Bible Could Get Banned in Utah Schools, Church Claims Prayer Regrew Woman's Amputated Toes, Is There an Anti-Trans Holy War Brewing? The lack of the draft has hurt this country. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. If blacks don't have that privilege, then whites shouldn't either, period, regardless of their religion. I mean hell, since before I started school, my nickname was, and still is Mink or Minky. I will pray for you unless that to might chap your ass, freedom of religion as well. RETIRED CMC USNAVY! The Air Force has granted several airmen permission to wear beards, turbans and the hijab for religious reasons in recent years. People should stop worrying about others. Staff Sgt. Most older soldiers think like that because thats what they know and respect. I guess it wouldn't be impossible. The military has granted a few troops the ability to keep their facial hair in accordance with their religious beliefs. His third grade teacher was in the Marine Corps Reserve and was quickly called away from teaching, DiPietro said. After Vietnam when I started flying jets the beard had to go, but I NEVER met the one stripe down from your nose standard for my mustache as I was always out of regs. CHOSE YOUR SIDE, BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE TO FIGHT FOR ALL YOU ARE ABOUT TO LOSE HERE IN THE FUTURE. Those who claim a medical exemption for razor bumps must now shave periodically to prove they still suffer from the condition, which can in some instances lead to permanent scars. I seriously doubt they have a Walmart in the middle of the jungle to pick up that lice cream. In 2021 the Air Force began allowing female service members to wear their hair in a single braid, double braid, or ponytail that can go down to the bottom of their shoulder blades. There is no religious requirement for beards in Heathenry, the post read. And at present there are no government approved gas masks or chemical suits from private makers. Retired SGM. Grab a book or poster board and instead of gripping do something for someone other then your self and try and be an inspiration or a light or a be on and do good for this globe. There is no more pride of country, Reimplementing the draft is long overdue. I believe the disability for a surviving spouse if is called DIC. And don't forget about office workers, most computer technicians and programmers, and administrative personnel. Hoppers exemption is the latest example of the militarys effort most notably the U.S. Army and U.S. Air Force to acknowledge the diverse religious practices represented in its ranks. password. Wounded in 68. After a little under 6 months in the hospital my enlistment was up and got out. I couldnt have said it any better. I cannot find an UNSUBSCRIBE within this item. Good luck, I have never heard of such foolishness. You said it. My husband did the same thing but where it kept messing him up was time in service as when you were out it was considered active reserve which goes to time served. They are required to keep it neatly tied in a hairnet or keep it trimmed. But on the same note when you put on any military uniform you are representing the military regardless! Jesus has never been depicted as clean shaven. Beards are seen as a sign of religious devotion and commitment, and many military personnel feel that they are a vital part of their religious identity. That would really confuse the enemy. The only way youll be successful, he said, is if you know the regulations better than the Army itself., If youre serious about your request, do not give up, DiPietro said. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. That decision would seem to undercut the Navys argument that allowing these sailors to wear beards poses some sort of risk, said Baxter. If you know youre right, the regulations will it may not seem like it but they will protect you. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Performance". The Army earlier this year approved religious accommodations for Sikh soldiers to maintain their beards and turbans. Sgt. You can see what the new tattoo policy is here. I MISS THE SERVICE AND WOULD GO BACK IN TOMORROW if allowed W, but I amnodw 73 and mmy useful nd ess to the military iscgon I did spend almost 20 years as a criterial care Tiscali car Respiratory therapist. Hair buns? Just go to , Macy's.com, and charge it to your account. If a soldier is following the rules as set by the Army, they should absolutely be free from harassment discrimination. And his wife is currently a colonel, and a nurse who only works in hospitals. Grow a nut sack unless youve already pu$$ied out and became someones Bitch. However, you may visit "Cookie Settings" to provide a controlled consent. Religious beards in the military were allowed in 2017, but the process to be granted that right takes a bit of time. Once I present my memorandum for record and cite all of the applicable regulations and directives, the focus on the beard tends to go away, for the most part, he said in the release. Now recruiting is in the toilet just as it was when I joined. I am not gay or whatsoever. He joined the Army the same day he turned 18 years old in 2010, about seven years before the service allowed religious exemptions. We commend their motion to include people from all religions in their grooming standards. are you still in grade school? Abdul Rahman Gaitan in 2018 became the first Muslim. The Air Forces new grooming policies come shortly after last years updates to approved female hairstyles. You've read 0 of 5 of todays most popular posts. like not being able to see or even fit a gas mask or other military required eqiptment? Apparently,you have not met the Taliban, ISIS, al-Qaeda, al-Shabab , or the Proud Boys. The flaw in that thinking is that when you do something to endanger yourself, you endanger those around you, especially in firefighting and combat. Due to this and out of support for soldiers observing requirements by often-marginalized doctrinal religions we cannot offer accommodation letters to Heathen soldiers for beards. US Army grants first ever religious exemption to Christian soldier to allow him to keep beard and grow hair long https://t.co/kts9VO2SSQ. Singh is a Sikh soldier who applied for the facial hair waiver before he was to report to Fort Belvoir. I really enjoyed my time. Good grief! Your a part time Woke Salior. Take healthcare personnel in military hospitals, cooks and cafeteria workers on military bases, for instance, who won't be sent into combat. Accordingly, we are now considering our final options before litigation, said Graham West, the communications director of the Sikh Coalition. The Space Force also announced progressive new grooming and uniform policies last year. Hed known that much since he was in third grade when he saw the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001, unfold on the television in real-time. I said, Oh, this is it, DiPietro recounted. Kesh, or uncut hair is one of the five religious requirements of baptized Sikhs. For additional Heathen religious support in the US Armed Forces, please consider checking out the Open Halls Project. Or should I say a sight for sore eyes. The United States Navy removed a permanent exemption in 2019 from shaving for those who suffer from razor burn. How can he avoid lands that are declared unholy and how could a soldier not have anything to do with dead bodies in a military offensive? A soldier's actions DO affect others and the outcome of the mission. He had to appeal his GI bill as well and they paid it. Effective immediately, the Air Force will allow airmen to grow their mustaches past the width of their lips, but not longer than 1/4 inch beyond a vertical line drawn from the corner of the mouth.. An unlikely boost for the change in the Navys policy came from the Marine Corps. I see it as a phase very similar to when the Army authorized the wear of black socks during the fitness test. If you want to improve the moral of the Army & other services, this would be a good start. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. Performance cookies are used to understand and analyze the key performance indexes of the website which helps in delivering a better user experience for the visitors. It doesn't have to be long and cave-man-like, as the white guys WILL grow. both of which inspire unit confidence and morale. The first person granted a beard waiver in the U.S. Airforce due to his faith was a Muslim soldier. When the first bullet snaps past your ear, ALL style concerns are out the window. DiPietro, who was a specialist assigned to the 1186th Deployment and Distribution Support Battalion at the time, said he felt a need to read the book of Numbers in the Old Testament of the Bible, and in Numbers 6, he found the Nazarite vow. MACV SOG. These cookies track visitors across websites and collect information to provide customized ads. Up and away to the sky . Capt. What I do find completely offensive is that this soldiers defense of growing a beard is to claim taking a vow before God and providing no evidence that they are fulfilling all the requirements of that vow. both of which inspire unit confidence and morale and most of all, readiness to protect our freedom and families at home no matter the cost! I would love a nice faux fur, though to be honest I would prefer a shrug over a full coat and in silver as that would help the wonderful highlights I have been getting this last couple of years. Now is not the time to let our awesome military get weak. Sikhs dont cut their hair and beards out of respect for the God-given form. Amy Minckler made the comment that as long as it doesn't endanger anyone but themselves, they should be allowed to have facial hair. Based on Spc. DiPietro). Uriah Walker/Army). Get off his back about his beard. All of this concern about facial hair when the concern should be the current effort to enlist people with known mental disorders for inclusivity.. Requests for waivers regarding grooming go all the way up to the Secretary level for approval. It does not store any personal data. You know there always something next. Spouses of Disabled Veterans and those that are survivors of the disabled Veterans DO have certain medical benefits. They can finish their education while SERVING THEIR COUNTRY! At that level, that particular officer will have in-house access to experienced chaplains and Army attorneys to consult on the decision. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. Rank, Time in grade, Time in service and paid for 21 yrs of service It was like I took a LONG vacation.. While we cannot speak to the specifics of any particular case, religious accommodation can be disapproved if it is determined that the request is not based on a sincerely held religious belief or if the accommodation would create a specific hazard that cannot be reasonably mitigated.. This new generation needs some goals and self-discipline. Within two days of the Army's rollout of new hair and grooming standards primarily for female soldiers, a petition calling for the service to allow male soldiers to grow beards has gotten more . If you have a problem with that, then move to a country, where you can have better benefits and freedom. Im retired with 23 years service. If so, should the military allow all soldiers to keep beards, regardless of religious affiliation? I respect it of course that they have the right but I understand that the practice belongs to the Jewish religion. These Cards Might Be Right for You, 6 Additional States Give Military Retirees a Break on Their Taxes, New VA Policy to Offer Emergency Mental Health Services for Free, Universal Studios Military Discount: Everything You Need to Know. In 2019, Sgt. It is not. O.K. If your religion requires you to dress in a manor that restricts your ability to do a particular job or work on certain days, etc. Other uncategorized cookies are those that are being analyzed and have not been classified into a category as yet. However, they are specifically required to "dress up their hair and beard properly". Someone needs to take him out!! AMERICA IS NOW WEAK, LAUGHED AT, AND EVERYONE WANTS TO TRY THEIR LUCK AT THE FENCE OF ALL REAL AMERICANS. Published Jul 30, 2021 11:57 AM EDT. The current uniform regs and styles also do not inspire neatness or cleanliness, The face needs to be clean shaven so that the mask can make an air-tight seal and prevent smoke, dust, poison gas and radioactive particles from being inhaled. Whats next? Jon Simkins is a writer and editor for Military Times, and a USMC veteran. Did it ever occur to you there might be a different reason for it? If youre trying to fleece the system because you just dont want to shave, or you just want to grow your hair out, Im telling you now: Its not gonna work.. Over the years, military officers have regularly dealt with requests for religious exemptions to various rules. Check out your local wounded warriors. They ALL target medics, aid workers, journalists, legislators, police, and women. There are many religious reasons why people might choose to grow a beard. If you want to maul and mutilate your body, have at it! This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. He said maybe, VA will help you ? BTWthere are plenty of black muslimsnot everything is about color. You should be ashamed to even respond like that!! Of course that was 27 years ago, in the real Navy. for many years. The facial hair restrictions have merit!. The policy was mainly expected to affect Sikhs, Muslims, Jews and members of other groups that wear beards or articles of clothing as part of their religion.
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