and five of Nosler's proprietary numbers26 Nosler, 27 . Locating the shoulder datum point of the 28 Nosler case a bit farther forward lessened the odds of that happening. was not a lot faster than the .270 Win. Nosler will be offering their complete line of M48 rifles in the 27 Nosler chambering. Averages for 150-grain bullets were 2,926 fps and 3,085 fps respectively for a difference of 159 fps. H4831 is still the powder to beat, although it does have plenty of competition today. I would love to find Hells Canyon x bolt 27 Nosler and mate it with Burris Eliminator 4 scope shooting 165 gr bullets. Joseph Von Benedikt is with Rafe Nielsen of Browning to take a look at a new X-Bolt series rifle. Conceived as a 21st century upgrade to existing 270 calibers, the 27 Nosler delivers previously unobtainable downrange ballistics by pairing the ultimate combination of case capacity with modern long-for-caliber bullets. 6.5 mm PRC, .280 Ack. ..also gonna run the 170 EOL'sand maybe the 140 BD'2's. OConnor was also right about powder and bullet weight. The .270 Wby. The loads for 140- and 150-grain bullets in my chart were furnished by Nosler and did not exceed 61,750 psi in Noslers 26-inch pressure barrel. Some figured the .270 was too small for use on anything but deer. OConnor proved to the hunting world that the .270 was capable of cleanly taking game as large as moose and elk. .458 Winchester Magnum History: The Complete Story, SIG Sauer P365 Pistol Now Offered in .380, 5 Best Long-Range Hunting Bullets Available Right Now, Springfield Armory SA-35 Pistol: Rebirth of the Browning P-35 Hi-Power, Casting Your Own Bullets for Lever-Action Rifles. Home on the Range: The flat-shooting 27 Nosler is an ideal open-country hunting cartridge. You are using an out of date browser. I developed the loads for 130- and 160-grain bullets, and while they have not been pressure-tested, they were safe maximums in my rifle. I have owned a Weatherby Mark V Deluxe in .270 Wby. I only sold it because I wanted one caliber of rifle and settled on .308 for several guns. The case capacity of a .270 Winchester case (in grains of water) is about 68 grains. The G1 BC for that bullet is 0.662. The only guy I found with one was in Australia, of all places, he swore by Reloder 33. For trouble-free feeding of any bolt-action rifle, I prefer to keep maximum Cartridge Overall Length 0.020" shorter than interior magazine length, and that would be 3.405" for the Model 48. All share the same 35-degree shoulder angle. For instance, the chart below shows the stark contrast between the performance of the 27 Nosler and the other popular .277" cartridges. Comb height also proved to be a comfortable fit with the lower mounting of the relatively small Nightforce scope I used when shooting the rifle. They dont try to look like tacti-cool products. (https://www.tactical-life.com/gear/ammo/277-sig-fury-hybrid-case-design/). heavier than the Long-Range Carbon, it is also $385 less expensive. My guess is a barrel life of 1500 rounds tops. But thats just me. A faster twist rate is one of the key elements of modern cartridge design, which has given us many excellent long-range rounds, such as the 6mm Creedmoor, 28 Nosler, 6.547 Lapua, and 300 PRC. bullets). AccuBond and 165-gr. Both sides of the wrist and fore-end have textured panels, but when hands become cold and wet during a hunt, molded-in checkering would offer a more secure grip. My antelope was feeding with another buck along the edge of a big water hole in a sage flat. It was decided that bullet and cartridge neck diameter alone was not enough to guarantee that someone with arms like Popeye (the Sailor Man) could not force a 28 Nosler cartridge into a rifle chambered for the 27 Nosler. Made entirely of carbon fiber, the stock has a durable Elite Midnight Camo finish, and its angled comb is high enough for a good cheek weld with one of the huge scopes many hunters are fond of today. .270 weatherby is pretty wicked if this one beats it and we had another Jack OConnor ummm yeah maybe,. My idea of an African cartridge is a .404 Jeffery as well, so I guess Im just not that sold on all this new cartridge stuff. The single stage TriggerTech Field model trigger features a top safety and user adjustable pull weight of 2.5-5 pounds. Brass is available from Hornady, Nosler, and Starline, and expanding bullets designed specifically for use in the 6.8 SPC are available from Barnes, Speer, Hornady, Nosler, and Sierra. That works fine on the standard array of .277-inch bullets, most of which fall between 100 and 150 grains. Due to an extremely high expansion ratio, the little cartridge does not gain a lot of velocity as barrel length is increased beyond 18.5 inches. when the cartridge was introduced in the Winchester Model 54 in 1925, and during the following half century or so used the .270 to take big game in various parts of the world. There would be some additional gunsmithing involved. Heres a brief look at the old-timer followed by four newer cartridges that share its bullet diameterincluding the as yet to be introduced 27 Nosler. Might work for that but, first, you have to see that antelope at 1200 yards. Unprimed cases are available from Hornady, Nosler, Norma, and Weatherby. rifle in .270 Win. I would ask you one question about this though: Could you or Dakota Arms build me a 7mm Dakota for what I can get a Weatherby Vanguard II in 270 Weatherby that guarantees 1 MOA? Well, the company just formally introduced another member to the family: the 27 Nosler. The 27 Nosler is an impressive cartridge, but I dont believe anyone reading this will live long enough to see it entirely replace the .270 Win. The addition of a Nightforce 3-10X 42 mm scope, Talley 30 mm rings and Picatinny rail, along with three 27 Nosler cartridges and a light nylon sling took the hunt-ready weight to an ounce past 9 lbs. I haven't been in there much during the past number of weeks except to pick up a couple of rifles and head out. Powder charges were dispensed with an RCBS Matchmaster, and bullets were seated with an RCBS Gold Medal die with sliding case guide and floating seating stem. Forums. Fortunately, my existing .270 works at ranges I can see. Ballistically, with their fast-twist rifling and high-BC bullets, these new cartridges walk all over the .270. Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. At 500 yds. Weatherby rifles chambered for most of the Weatherby cartridges have always had freebored chambers that allow bullets to freetravel quite a long distance prior to engaging the rifling. Whether you decide to breathe new life into an old .270 Winchester by giving it a new fast-twist barrel, opt for the efficient, impressive 6.8 Western short-action magnum, or jump in with both feet and get the daddy dragon of them allthe 27 Nosleryoull be better served by the .270 than ever before. I believe it held 10 rds. During that year, I used the same rifle to take mule deer, pronghorn antelope, elk, and caribou, and they also were one-shot kills. The 7mm bullet space, however, has benefited from huge interest by the precision long-range shooters in F-class, benchrest, etc. hogs and it kills just as fast and clean as my 7mm Rem Mag. One of my favorites is a Browning A-Bolt Mountain Ti in .270 WSM. Lets use 68 to make the .270 look as hot as it could be. The barrel twist on our previous .270sthe Winchester, Winchester Short Magnum, and Weatherby Magnumis 1:10. The case has been shortened significantly to allow adequate head height for extremely long, aerodynamic bullets. a slightly bigger case and a slightly fatter bullet may have been a bit of one-upmanship at a time when new cartridges were not introduced on a weekly basis. Just like the other Nosler cartridges (with the exception of the 22 Nosler), the 27 Nosler uses a rebated rim case descended from the .300 Remington Ultra Magnum, which is itself descended from the .404 Jeffery. 125, No. RCBS reloading dies are also currently available for the cartridge. As a result, bullet manufacturers have never made high-BC bullets in .277 diameter (the actual size of .270 Win. Bore area is 0.03941 in^2. The 26 Nosler came first in 2014, followed by the 28 Nosler (2015), the 30 Nosler (2016) and the 33 Nosler in 2017. (see my post above). Overall cartridge length was 3.388". By the time you read this, Nosler should have factory loads rolling off its machines. Under a hundred yards gets a little high (right at 3) but I can figure that out pretty quickly. Pressure-tested data came from Nosler, Hodgdon and VihtaVuori. Mag. A faster-than-standard 1-8.5 twist barrel design allows the 27 Nosler to propel Noslers factory-loaded 150gr AccuBond and 165gr AccuBond Long Range bullets (new for 2020) at never-before-seen velocities and distances in 270 caliber. If they do, this cartridge will drop steeply in price and would become widely available (once military obligations are met). Reactions: Yote Klr. Im going to pull the case capacity for the .27 Nosler from the .26 Nosler and the .28 Nosler, which Im seeing is about 94 grains. A friend of mine bought a Model Seven in 6.8 SPC as a first centerfire rifle for his young daughter, and he considers Hornady Custom with the 120-grain SST and Federal Fusion with the 115-grain Fusion to be the deadliest medicines available for use on deer and feral hogs. A few months prior to the official introduction of the .270 WSM in 2002, I used a Browning A-Bolt chambered for it to take a very large nilgai bull on the King Ranch in Texas. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. You can see these barreled actions for sale at Brownells. The 28 Nosler is a long, long range rig with 26-inch barrel. Snow 130 Grain; 140 Grain; 150 Grain; 160 - 165 Grain; NOSLER. Nosler's newest cartridge, the 27 Nosler was introduced last year as a modern makeover of the time-honored .270 Win. Jul 1, 2019 #4 ; Thats right, i forgot. The 27 Nosler is joining a crowded field of long-range cartridges, so it's going to have to fight to succeed. No creep or overtravel were evident. The Howa 1500 is a nice action, and their products quality is more than I would expect for the price point. I averaged maximum velocities for three bullet weights listed in the latest reloading manuals published by Lyman, Speer, Barnes, Hornady, Western Powders, Hodgdon, Swift, Berger, Nosler, and Sierra. Time will tell. For this reason, reamers that cut a standard-length throat have been used when building custom rifles around the various Weatherby cartridges. Torx-head bolts at the front and rear of the receiver secure the pillar-bedded action to a Manners MCS-T Elite Tac stock while the barrel free-floats. Dividing this by 0.06026 gives a bit more than 1128. We sneaked to within 300 yards, and he stood upand the 27 Nosler put him right back down. A Pachmayr Decelerator pad does a good job of soaking up recoil. Some cartridges, such as the .30/06 and .308, kept chugging along. Does anyone have any experience or info with this cartridge? A faster-than-standard 1-8.5" twist barrel design allows the 27 Nosler to propel Nosler's factory-loaded 150gr AccuBond and 165gr AccuBond Long Range bullets (new for 2020) at never-before-seen velocities and distances in 270 caliber. Named the 6.8 Western, its a short-action, non-belted magnum. Theres already a cartridge that would do all this: the 7mm Dakota. Then a college professor by the name of Jack OConnor bought a Model 54 in .270 and later had a number of custom rifles on Model 70 actions built around it as well. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. Available in different sizes and red dot ready, it'll fit your needs, whatever they are. Kevin Steele of Petersen's HUNTING is with Dawn Wehunt of Rock River Arms INC. learning about the new Ascendant platform. The 26 Nosler introduced in 2013 was followed by the 28 Nosler in 2015, the 30 Nosler in 2016, and the 33 Nosler in 2017. Subscriber Services. Mag., .270 WSM and .270 Winchester, their net capacities are 79.4, 71.8 and 62.8 grs., respectively. I used an RCBS die set and first tried running a case through the full-length resizing die with its mouth in contact with the shellholder. Ok, that's good to know. Depending on bullet weight, powders with burn rates ranging from H4831 to Retumbo are viable candidates. Heres how it performed, By . So why only a few other cartridges of its caliber have been introduced through the years has long been a mystery. High ammo cost, that or investment in a reloading tools. I came here to praise the .270, not to bury it. Advertised weights are 6 lbs. Kevin Steele of Petersen's HUNTING is at the Streamlight booth at SHOT Show 2023 to go over the Bear Trap light from Streamlight. Cartridge neck diameter with a bullet seated is 0.311 inch. We also saw many compromises that didn?t . That's right in between the .270 Winchester and the 27 Noslerand this cartridge fits into short-action rifles and plays nicer with the short barrels popular with mountain hunters. 1) Cartridge? Generally speaking, the more powder volume you try to shove down a narrow bore, the more overbore your cartridge is. Among the factory loads, my favorite varmint load is Federal American Eagle loaded with the Speer 90-grain TNT. 30 Nosler cases are preferred if forming 27 Nosler cases because of the similar shoulder dimension. If anything, the grand old cartridge will receive much needed attention in comparisons such as I have made in this report. Sends it through the roof. AccuBond bullet is good news because, at the conservative distances that I and most other hunters take big game, it retains a higher percentage of its original weight than the two Long Range versions. Before there were scopes or red dots there were iron sights. Id be surprised to see the barrel last more than a few thousand rounds. Sound familiar? How the Brand-New 27 Nosler Revives the .277, We used the new cartridge on a big-game hunt last fall. The result is a standard setting offering from Nosler that redefines performance as radically now as the 270 Winchester did upon its introduction in 1925. He was a huge fan of the Savage action because when the barrel was shot out, he would remove it, cut a couple of inches or so off it, re-ream the chamber, rethread it and put it back on. Yup. But do you know how to properly use them? AccuBond and 165-gr. The 27 Nosler is not presently offered in the Model 48 Long-Range with its all-steel barrel, but since the other Nosler cartridges are available in it, the 27 Nosler is likely to follow eventually. You must log in or register to reply here. You can also use our Rifle spec builder and create the gun of your dreams and get a pdf of all of the details emailed to you. would i need to change the bolt face? since 1984. See what happens. . Being able to use Lapua brass would be a plus. In the absence of factory cases, the 27 Nosler is easily formed by necking down 30 Nosler brass. The 27 Nosler is joining a crowded field of long-range cartridges, so its going to have to fight to succeed. I have 2 Magnus stocks which I like a lot, and I like to keep my stocks similar. is farther forward than the shoulder of the .270 Win. Over the decades, millions of deer, elk, sheep, bears and pronghorn have fallen to it, to grace the tables and walls of Americas hunters and add chapters to the American hunting lore. Mag. It throws a 150-grain bullet 3,300 fps from a 26-inch barrel, about 300 to 400 fps faster than the .270 Winchester, 200 fps faster than the .270 WSSM, and 100 fps quicker than the .270 Weatherby Magnum. Kevin Steele, Publisher of Petersen's HUNTING talks with JJ Reich of HEVI-Shot about the new offerings for 2023. Looks good. Pretty cool. Kevin Steele from Petersen's HUNTING speaks to Jordan Egli of Burris Optics about the all-new Veracity PH Riflescope. when both were loaded to the same chamber pressure. You must log in or register to reply here. In order to make modern cartridges fit into, and feed from, rifle magazines with modern, high-BC bullets, adequate head height must be engineered into cartridge design.Velocity with the 165-grain Nosler ABLR is advertised at 2,970 fps. I have not kept an accurate count of the game bagged with the .270 WSM through the years, but I have taken enough to become convinced that all things consideredincluding recoil and performance on gameit might just be the most useful member of the WSM family. Thats more than 100 fps faster than the 7mm Rem. Better bullets, powders, optics, cartridge-case designs, and manufacturing techniques, coupled with sophisticated yet affordable ballistics software, have revolutionized marksmanship for everyday shooters and hunters. The 27 Nosler, introduced in 2020, is the fifth cartridge developed by the family-operated company on the modified .404 Jeffery case. The Berger 170-gr. Getting bored with my 6.5 and 7mm's and up for something new. Availability of 27 Nosler ammunition loaded with the standard 150-gr. First, the Weatherby Vanguard is a Howa 1500 barreled action in a Weatherby stock. The 6.8 SPC was introduced with great fanfare, and although it now appears to be struggling, plenty of rifles chambered for it are still being shot. Other chambering options for the Long-Range Carbon rifle are 6.5 mm Creedmoor, 26 Nosler, 28 Nosler, .300 Win. A big chunk of what youre buying in Dakotas classic rifles is a really nice stick of walnut. There were almost no high-Bc bullets being made to maximize range in the .270 space. 800-741-0015. In light varmint bullets, theyll both be shooting the same weight of bullets (lets say 40 to 52 grain pills) and with the same twist rifling (lets say 1:12). This works just fine for bullets in the 130-150 grain range those cartridges are most popular in. This idea is used for relative comparison only. Which cartridge? 30 Nosler cases are preferred if forming 27 Nosler cases because of the similar shoulder dimension. without a brake. Then the bolt face would have to opened up a tad. From the postWorld War II era right up to the early 2000s, the .270 was a colossus among big-game hunting cartridges, a mighty twin of the immortal .30/06. (possibly NX8 4-32) Hoping for thoughts and ideas Jun 16, 2021 #2 N NK Hunter Member Joined Jun 16, 2021 They will overhype and overprice this just like their others. Subscriber Services. The G1 ballistic coefficients (BCs) are 0.500 for the 150-gr. will likely forever remain unanswered. in the dust. And, last, the 1-8 twist rate in the .27 Nosler will stabilize longer and heavier bullets, making it a very viable elk and moose cartridge. rifle market grow and develop into a complete niche of its own. I dont have much interest in these necked-down super magnum rifles. OConnor passed away in 1978, but if he were still with us today would he abandon his beloved custom rifles in .270 Win. Here's a photo that shows a general preview of the build. Wish I were younger27 Nosler with 180 grain Woodleigh weldcorethat would be my elk load. As the name states, the 27 Nosler uses .277" bullets like the legendary, 8 MILITARY SURPLUS GUNS EVERY SHOOTER SHOULD OWN. Conceived as a 21st century upgrade, the 27 Nosler delivers previously unobtainable downrange ballistics by pairing the ultimate combination of case capacity with modern long-for-caliber bullets. And while Berger considers 1:8" to be optimal for the 170-gr. In my rifle, one of Noslers M48s with a 26-inch carbon-fiber barrel, the 150-grain AccuBond bullets registered an average muzzle velocity of 3129 fps. 27 Nosler Ah why not? Nosler may as well rent out space in every Dicks and call it Fudds R Us.. The Model 21 is built by riflemen, for riflemen and provides exceptional reliability and packable precision to any huntwherever that may be. I suppose if you wanted to shoot antelope at 1200 yards, this is the ticket. See how it turns out and what she likes. Nosler has taken the venerable 270 rifle caliber to a new level with the introduction of the all-new, 27 Nosler. Average maximum velocities for 130-grain bullets were 3,158 fps for the .270 Win. Other than the heavy mirage in the scope, and a slight correction for the left-to-right crosswind, the 440-yard shot couldnt have been more straightforward. The Remington is more accurate, but the Winchester is accurate enough to take game as far away as I care to shoot. Upon ignition, the propellant column burns more efficiently than the long, skinny powder columns in the classic .270 Win. Besides loving big bore rifles, I like barrel burners too. This 8 twist 26" barrel loves 150gr Nosler ballistic tip and N570 with gm215m primers at a mild 3300 fps. That costs money, and thats part of why Dakotas price is up there. I'm doing Bartlein instead of Proof and running a different brake, action, and scope, but using GW stock and bottom metal etc. Those who generally knock the 270 Winchester havent shot diddle with it. Loaded with a 150gr bullet, the 27 Nosler has an additional 800ft/lbs. Im not sure I see the point here. Most rifles chambered in 270 Winchester, 270 WSM, and 270 Weatherby have a 1:10" rifling twist rate. I would hold my breath on the Nosler, for now anyway. This kind of flat-shooting performance has made hunters swoon since the first ballistic tables tumbled off the Gutenberg press. Brownells is your source for 27 Nosler 360 Buckhammer Rifle Ammo,Ammunition at Brownells parts and accessories. Head height is the distance from the mouth of the cartridge case to the tip of the loaded bullet. If you study ballistic form factor at all, the .277 is lagging behind both the 7mm and 6.5mm as far as efficiency for a given projectile weight. Mag. Velocity and energy are comparable, too. For that reason, there are not a lot of options for hunters looking for a really long, heavy, high ballistic coefficient .277" bullet. This begs the question: What heavy bullets are we talking about in .277? You have entered an incorrect email address! All Rights Reserved. Should you shoot the magazine empty and there is no time to reload, simply toss a cartridge through the ejection port, slam the bolt home and press the trigger. When first introduced, there was quite a bit of speculation on how much faster it is than the .270 Win. Fun fact for all the bUt jACk OcONnor!! I see this 27 Nosler round being a boutique cartridge for long-range target shooting enthusiasts, and maybe (heavy emphasis on maybe) a long-range sniper cartridge for the U.S. military. 27 Nosler Load Data; 27 Nosler Load Data. That could be a rather expensive tool, as it would be custom tooling from one of the reamer makers. The primary drawback is that to shoot those sleek, high-BC bullets that give the .270 new life, youll have to handload. Joseph Von Benedikt is with Jorge Spat to learn all about it. Mag. On my digital postal scale, the Long-Range Carbon in 27 Nosler weighed 6 lbs., 15 ozs., and thats close enough. Each cartridge in the Nosler lineup is named in accordance with the first two digits of the bullet diameter it uses: .224" for the 22 Nosler, .264" for the 26 Nosler, .284" for the 28 Nosler, .308" for the 30 Nosler, and .338" for the 33 Nosler. Well, the folks at Nosler decided to use a 1:8.5" twist barrel for their M48 rifles chambered in 27 Nosler. All this from a short-action cartridge with a lot less recoil. A World Record Attempt and everyone is out at the range shooting and practicing. The Weatherby has held the longest point blank range record for a very long time. The 27 Nosler has the potential to be a real winner, so if enough riflemen ask for it, Nosler could very possibly change that policy. Due the slight weight difference between the two, along with the stiffness of the PROOF Research barrel, once the rifle was sighted in the thread protector and the brake could be interchanged with no effect on zero. It took about an hour to get down from our perch and climb up to him. Nosler's stated goal in the 27 Nosler is to produce a more capable long-range hunting cartridge. I also believe John Garand designed his rifle around a .270 cartridge. Join F&S+ to read exclusive stories by your favorite writers. Who knew wild turkey's were so stupid!? Ill shoot that much in a year or two. Custom? The 26 Nosler came first in 2014, followed by the 28. Lets explore some comparisons, crunching numbers against traditional .270 Winchester loads, and then adding 7mm Rem. Dan, Their rifles aren't free, but they do make a good product and they will make it good for you. Still a great rifle. 27 Nosler Rifle Cartridge; 28 Nosler Rifle Cartridge; 30 Nosler Rifle Cartridge; 33 Nosler Rifle Cartridge; Team Nosler. The action and the aluminum bottom metal have a Cerakote finish in Sniper Grey. The Cutting Edge 140-gr. My 6.8 ammo was loaded with Remingtons 115-grain Core-Lokt Ultra bullet at 2,650 fps. Considering its big appetite for powder, velocity spread with the 27 Nosler was quite low. and 3158 f.p.s. The .38 Smith & Wesson Special, designed in 1898, rocked the handgun realm with its ballistic performance making it a cartridge for the history books. Partition in my tests, and there is more than enough room in the magazine for it. While that extra velocity does indeed translate into less bullet drop and more energy retained downrange, the 27 Nosler also has another important advantage over comparable cartridges: a faster rifling twist. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Taurus has redesigned this sporting pistol for performance. We use cookies to make your experience better. Fully prepped and ready to load, Nosler's gone ahead and done the meticulous case prep work for you. Nosler, the world's finest bullets, ammunition, rifles, & brass. 27 Nosler Soon after Mike Lake of Nosler had completed the designs and specifications for a family of cartridges on the .404 Jeffery case, they were all registered with SAAMI.
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